1. As I look at “how I will appear” on Facebook “places” I see they’ve got me positioned in Golden Gate Park, San Francisco, which is “close but no cigar” to where I actually am this morning – nevertheless, I am also seeing that several people who I do not know are showing up on my list.

    And yes, it was checked when I looked at my settings. I unchecked it.

    I would suggest that Facebook should take one last stab at solving this, and that what they should do is provide a “Make my Account Opt-In-Only” checkbox that causes new features to remain undeployed in an account unless we specifically and actively select them. This might not fit the FB business model perfectly, but their “brand” gets a little more tarnished each time there’s one of these privacy-related events.

  2. I am with you on the Facebook issue! I actually started disabling my account a couple of months back, but am too embedded with it for work purposes. I have, however, been able to pull a great deal of personal information out of it. I just don’t trust the Faceless Facebook anymore!

  3. Perspective from Social Media Insider:

    “Foursquare, I Can’t Quit You
    by David Berkowitz , Tuesday, August 24, 2010”

    “…Hey, Foursquare, a social network with about 250 times as many users as yours just incorporated your core functionality and even co-opted the term “check-in” that you’ve been trying to trademark. Is it time to move on?

    Not so fast. Foursquare founder Dennis Crowley tweeted a few days ago, “Call from my 86 yr old grandma: ‘Hello. I want to know if this Face-Book is like yours. It sounds like Four-Squared, but without the fun.'” Grandma Crowley, apocryphal as she may be, speaks the truth. Foursquare is still more fun, and probably always will be compared to Facebook Places. That means a lot, for now.

    When Facebook Places launched, I first checked in at my agency 360i’s office and then tried it from a number of other locations in subsequent days. Most of the time, I also used a number of other location-based apps such as Foursquare, Whrrl, Gowalla, Yelp, SCVNGR, and FoodSpotting. Even if I tire of some apps over time, I’m not giving up any solely because Facebook Places is here. Here are five reasons why:

    1) It’s not easy to tell on Facebook Places who’s near you. Foursquare now includes maps to plot your friends’ whereabouts, and in general it’s better at detecting who’s really nearby. Facebook’s algorithm currently places too much emphasis on how closely connected it thinks your friends are to you, but if a close friend I’ve known for half my life checks into somewhere in Iowa, that won’t matter to me when I’m in New York….

    Then he goes through multiple steps and concludes that FB has a shot at ousting 4square etc despite the privacy issues, assuming they’re all correctable, e.g. “In time, you can expect it to have among the most precise locations, and I wouldn’t be surprised if by the end of the year I have 10 times as many friends using Places as I do all the other apps combined.”


  4. My reply to the Foursquare comparison?

    Yah, that’s if FB doesn’t tick off a large portion of their 500 mill gazill peeps with arrogant antics that KEEP REPEATING again and again “tarnishing the brand” as Sky says and trashing the trust, as Gavin implied…

    For me, it’s a no brainer, FB lost me at three strikes…and that was somewhere around the Beacon brouhaha.

    Yah, I still have the account, due to media monitoring, but it’s not my most active social media use, nor is it my most ‘go to’ hub for convos and usefulness in either prof or personal arenas…in fact, Shaping Youth doesn’t even have a fan page set up there as I’m in ‘why bother’ mode on that one, in the sea of social media, they can find SY content much easier/faster elsewhere…

  5. There is so much potential for abuse with Facebook Places. I’ve thought of several ways this could really come back to hurt people.
    On the other hand, Foursquare does have a lot to worry about. With Facebook’s desire to be the “internet” itself to most of the world and hence control much of the websites businesses have, I think Foursquare could get pushed right out of the picture.

  6. Great post, James, just read your link. I agree on the money matters and rev gen model pushing FB into a desire for being ‘the internet itself’ (eep, are you listening net neutrality naysayers?!)

    heh. Also, Sky, I commented on James’ post that your simple checkbox idea,

    Make my Account Opt-In-Only” that causes new features to remain undeployed unless we specifically and actively select them.” is a great big ‘duh’ for them, but it’s also what pushes me into viewing them as a Gordon Gecko wannabe in “greed is good” corp mentality instead of a benign oversight, since we all know, this is how they play.

    They had the opportunity many a time to ‘do the right thing’ and Zuck can only play the boy wonder/oopsie/my bad, youth card so many times before eyerolls and backlash from youth themselves kick in as betrayal of the highest order when they call ‘BS’ and boycott/move on…

    If a youth mutiny kicks in, monetization will sink faster than a pirate ship full of gold in the trading days of yore…Argh! Fly the pirate flag mateys, make the Cap’n shore up his flanks or walk the plank! Squawk says the parrot! 😉

    Just sayin’…

  7. If I was walking the red carpet at the Oscars I might want the world to know it but I see no reason anyone should know that I’m at the grocery store, bank, or heaven forbid, my child’s school.

    Yes, the internet connects us all, but that doesn’t mean we have to give up all privacy.

  8. Just downloaded it on my iPhone and enjoy it! It looks like SCVNGR is SO much better than Foursquare mainly because of the game dynamics that they’ve built into it. Now they just need to build up their user base because not a single person I know is using it. 🙁 I’m guessing that Foursquare will simply add on some of the features that SCVNGR has in order to compete.

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